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Post by michelle on May 20, 2010 9:38:48 GMT -8
What about the killing of Whidmore? BTW, I thought Ben couldn't kill Whidmore? I'm not convinced Whidmore is dead. And even if he is, that doesn't mean that Ben still does not have something up his sleeve. Think back to Ben's character when he was Henry Gale. He is the king of manipulation and will stop at nothing to carry out his plan. Richard's end was as disappointing as his entire story. I'm not convinced Richard is dead. |
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Post by Kirby on May 20, 2010 9:47:39 GMT -8
I think that is a problem with TV shows in general today. You want to tell a story, but you know that you can't just have one or two seasons...you have to keep finding ways to prolong it as long as people are watching. This sometimes confuses the original intent of the story.
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Post by moritz on May 20, 2010 9:51:20 GMT -8
I'm not convinced Richard is dead. Right, it's probably too early to announce his death. My bad. I don't see how he survived this attack though. The fact that Locke returned within seconds means that he didn't take Richard away for having a talk. Smokies original plan failed and now he's getting rid of those he doesn't need anymore. |
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Post by moritz on May 20, 2010 11:08:42 GMT -8
I think that is a problem with TV shows in general today. You want to tell a story, but you know that you can't just have one or two seasons...you have to keep finding ways to prolong it as long as people are watching. This sometimes confuses the original intent of the story. true. |
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Post by Josh on May 20, 2010 17:57:20 GMT -8
Didn't Jacob make it so that Richard was "like him"- ie, he can't be killed directly by smokie?
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Post by Josh on May 20, 2010 18:53:05 GMT -8
happy birthday, kirby!
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Post by christopher on May 20, 2010 19:00:33 GMT -8
Moritz wrote:
Hey! Another agreement. I started thinking this last week. So now that we have two witnesses, the matter is established ;D
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Post by christopher on May 20, 2010 19:02:31 GMT -8
I don't think Richard is dead either. Too quick, uneventful. He has a major part to play still me thinks. Whidmore? Dead. (IMO  ) |
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Post by moritz on May 20, 2010 22:38:46 GMT -8
I don't think Richard is dead either. Too quick, uneventful. He has a major part to play still me thinks. But Sayids death came quick and unexpected as well. The producers erased many characters quick and unexpectedly and uneventful. I have the feeling that they are now in a bit of a hurry because the grand final is almost there and there are still too many things unresolved. We'll see. And Josh: I don't think Jacob made Richard like him. He didn't take him to the light and mumbled his abracadabra. He touched him and made him imortal, yes, but you were the one who told that being immortal only means that he won't die of age but that he can still be killed. Anyway, maybe Smokie just wanted Richard out of the way so he could speak to Ben without interruption. |
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Post by Josh on May 23, 2010 17:47:07 GMT -8
Drum roll please........................................
This is it!
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Post by rbbailey on May 23, 2010 18:37:04 GMT -8
I don't think Richard is dead, could be though.
Why wouldn't Ben be able to kill Whidmore?
I still think it's all going to wrap up with the alternate reality becoming the one that actually works, that all their fates will be the same, just in the alternate reality.
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Post by michelle on May 23, 2010 23:17:44 GMT -8
I'm not convinced Richard is dead. Right, it's probably too early to announce his death. My bad. I don't see how he survived this attack though. The fact that Locke returned within seconds means that he didn't take Richard away for having a talk. Smokies original plan failed and now he's getting rid of those he doesn't need anymore. Go ahead, Mo. You can say it. I'm waiting.  |
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Post by ryan on May 24, 2010 8:18:15 GMT -8
I caught the final episode and have been obsessing over it ever since. I had a couple of thoughts that I wanted to throw in here. Severe Spoiler Warning!!!!! Don't read if you haven't seen it yet. (unless you don't mind ) Well, aside from its Unitarian world view, I can really appreciate a few of the messages that I can take away with from this show, and especially these last couple of episodes. Desmond, who had wanted to become a priest is responsible for bringing the "Christian Shepherd" into the church for the conclusion. He plays an incredibly evangelical role. Here is a guy who is willing to endure jail time (of course he knows he will get out), embarrass himself, and do whatever it takes to reveal the truth to everyone else. Several characters are not present in the church at the end. This reminds me of Jesus' explanation that some will know the truth, but will trade it for a lie. Danielle and Ben, in particular, seem willing to trade the truth for a lie (at least for the time being). Finally, I am now curious. I have heard rumors about a spin off. I wonder if they are working on a show about Hurley's run on the island or are they going to follow those that escaped the island. |
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Post by Kirby on May 24, 2010 9:03:38 GMT -8
Wait. Wha? That is all I have to say.
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Post by rbbailey on May 24, 2010 12:17:33 GMT -8
I'm also wondering about some sort of spin-off. Totally wishful thinking, but...
...what about:
Ben & Hurley on the island?
Richard?
Jacob?
Echo?
etc....
All in all, I thought it ended pretty well. The spiritual truths were there, but mixed, especially with the last scene in the back room of the church.
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Post by Margot on May 24, 2010 12:23:16 GMT -8
So this is how it ends, not with a bang, but a whimper....T.S. Elliot must have been a LOSTie.
One hardly knows where to begin, hm? Maybe Josh should be teaching on this next week, so we can all hear a full exegesis?
(Just a few of the) Thoughts/Questions I am left with:
1. Why did Ben say he wouldn't come in the church because he still had a few things left to take care of ?(or something to that effect.) If the implication was that he wasn't "good enough" to go with the rest of them, what kind of "penance" did he plan to do if all the primaries were in the church??
2. Were we supposed to think Jack's death, Hugo and Ben's co-watching of the island, and everyone coming together at the church were all happening simoltaneously because they were somehow all "out of time?" (BTW, I loved that Hugo was left as the #1.)
3. I loved the the idea that they would stay together and travel on together because they were ultimately the most important people in each other's lives.
4. Desmond is THE MAN.
5. I knew John Locke and Ben would turn out good at the very, very, very end! Told ya so!!! ;D
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Post by rbbailey on May 24, 2010 12:27:10 GMT -8
Also...
...no Faraday in the church, something about not bringing him with me -- said Desmond.
...what about the numbers?!
...and what about the island itself? What the heck was it anyway?
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