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Post by moritz on Feb 25, 2010 2:06:09 GMT -8
Anyone want to venture a guess as to who David's mother is? My guess is that Juliette and Jack went to med school together and had a love child. I say it’s Rousseau…. Haha, just kidding!  It's interesting that Jack now has a son in the alternate universe. It shows how different is life could have been. And it’s interesting that he has a fresh appendix scar even though in this new reality his operation was many years ago… When Jack flipped out because of Hurley telling him he got what it takes, I thought that this was the meaning of his mysterious tattoo. Did they ever tell us what it actually means? I only vaguely remember an episode showing how he got it and how much trouble it caused him and that there was something mysterious about it. I think this last episode pretty firmly puts Smokey Locke on the wrong side of the island (so to speak). Jacob has the ability to appear to people in different ways, on or off the island. Jacob's influence, although strange, has always been positive. Smokey has always been a menace, and his control of Rousseau/Claire... anyway, a twist at this point in the show would basically just throw everyone way too much, they wouldn't be able to reconstitute the plot in time to end the show. My thoughts almost exactly. It would be a pretty farfetched stretch if Smokey turned out to be the good one in the end. I’m not entirely convinced that Jacob’s influence has really been positive all the time though. I at least see a possibility that the relation Jacob-Smokie could turn out to be more complex than merely good vs. evil (although this classic simplified dichotomy is what I ultimately expect from an American TV show [nothing against American TV shows]). Who are the candidates? Why are they all there? The candidates are Jack, Sawyer, Jin or Sun, Sayid and Hugo. They are all there because one of them is supposed to be the successor of Jacob as protector of the island (provided that Smokie told us the truth here). But Jacob doesn’t seem to know who it is just yet. But since he is searching a protector for the island, it follows that his interaction with the candidates should be perceived positively. Only if the island turns out to be something bad, this perception would turn. I’m wondering: did you see episode 4? Cause that’s where the candidate question is being answered. If you haven't you might want to consider catching up And moritz- Jack, in this episode, made me think of you. Hope you don't take that in a bad way. I just fancy that your relationship with God is like Jack's to Jacob's in some ways. The difference between Jack and me in this respect is that unlike him, I've accepted my fate. If your God exists, he chose not to communicate with me in a way I can understand and instead is letting me do my thing or is manipulating my ways behind my back. Whatever floats his boat. I'll just keep on living and see how things play out. If he wants to talk someday, he knows where I live and I won’t be resentful. If he rather wants to lead me somewhere specific without letting me know, there you go. And if he doesn't exist (which I find more plausible for so many reasons) everything's just fine  I’m not a restless tortured soul driven by my own deficiencies and failures. I’m rather a pretty happy camper (and I have a good relation with my Dad  ). |
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 7:18:10 GMT -8
Thanks for underscoring my point. Sounds a lot like Jack to me that's why I said "in some ways" |
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Post by moritz on Feb 25, 2010 7:50:15 GMT -8
Sounds a lot like Jack to me Really? Are we talking about the same Jack? The one who destroys the mirrors of the lighthouse because he can't handle the idea of having been used? |
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Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 10:56:35 GMT -8
I'm kinda regretting bringing it up, moritz, because I can see how you would think I'm alluding to something negative.
It was just the idea that God chooses to reveal himself plainly to some and indirectly to others, for a higher purpose, and because of His personal knowledge of each individual.
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Post by Margot on Feb 25, 2010 21:49:35 GMT -8
Hard to know which I look forward to more each week...the Tuesday night episode or the Wed. morning rehash! The point about David's mom has me thinking....I mean, how many women are left that we haven't already seen in the new "LA Scenario?" With Kate out of the running, my money is on Juliet, sans the Med. School romance. Is there anyone else of child-bearing age we can plug in? Another loose end I've been thinking about---have we seen Jin, Sun, or Sayid in the LA Scenario? |
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Post by Josh on Feb 26, 2010 8:45:35 GMT -8
Ana Lucia- she had a bit of a thing with Jack. Except the kid doesn't look like he could be her son.
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Post by Josh on Feb 26, 2010 8:57:31 GMT -8
A couple things from a perusal of the Lost wikipedia article:
There is a reference to the ghostly appearances of Walt actually being manifestations of smokie.
Also, apparently John Locke drew the smoke monster when Richard visited him as a child?
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Post by moritz on Feb 27, 2010 2:39:27 GMT -8
I've been talking to a friend yesterday and he said he was curious how the real John Locke returned to the island scenario. I asked him what made him think that Locke would return and he said he had seen a promotion picture of LOST and this was a reference to Da Vinci's "Last supper". And John Locke was Jesus... Did anybody else see this picture? Was it official or was it fan-made? If official, what can it mean? That Locke will resurrect? Or that Smokie-Locke actually is the good one? Or merely an attempt to put us off the scent? I found three versions of that picture:    Note the differences! Interpretations anyone? I'm kinda regretting bringing it up, moritz, because I can see how you would think I'm alluding to something negative. It was just the idea that God chooses to reveal himself plainly to some and indirectly to others, for a higher purpose, and because of His personal knowledge of each individual. Don't worry Josh, I actually got that. I don't like Jack very much, that's all. But I'm well aware that comparisons between Jack and me were never the point you were making. Jack and I are both doubting Thomases but that's where the similarities end. Ana Lucia- she had a bit of a thing with Jack. Except the kid doesn't look like he could be her son. How about Libby? I'm kinda regretting bringing it up, moritz, because I can see how you would think I'm alluding to something negative. It was just the idea that God chooses to reveal himself plainly to some and indirectly to others, for a higher purpose, and because of His personal knowledge of each individual. Don't worry Josh, I actually got that. I don't like Jack very much, that's all. But I'm well aware that comparisons between Jack and me were never the point you were making. Jack and I are both doubting Thomases but that's where the similarities end. Ana Lucia- she had a bit of a thing with Jack. Except the kid doesn't look like he could be her son. How about Libby? |
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Post by Josh on Feb 27, 2010 8:29:09 GMT -8
Actually, I think you are both doubting Thom- asses  ;D JK. Facinating about the Last Supper picture. I would really be disappointed if the real John Locke doesn't come back and find what he was looking for all those episodes. He was my favorite character before Smokie. |
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Post by Margot on Feb 27, 2010 14:48:14 GMT -8
Did anybody else see this picture? Was it official or was it fan-made? If official, what can it mean? That Locke will resurrect? Ana Lucia- she had a bit of a thing with Jack. Except the kid doesn't look like he could be her son. How about Libby? Yes, I think both Libby and Ana Lucia are good guesses---ooh! What about Penny? I also find The Picture(s) facinating. It makes most sense that they were studio shots floated for fans on that side of the pond. (It would take a very nervy fan to imprint the ABC/Touchstone copyright on it if it weren't, right?) What do we think the positioning of the characters is supposed to tell us? Of course, Locke squarely in the middle sure says a lot. Way back in the beginning, I never thought Locke would end up being one of the main characters, but I have to say Paul had pegged him as pivotal from the very first. Go Husband! |
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Post by moritz on Mar 1, 2010 7:27:19 GMT -8
I would really be disappointed if the real John Locke doesn't come back and find what he was looking for all those episodes. He was my favorite character before Smokie. Hm, I don't know. John was my favorite character from the start (later together with Sawyer). I would certainly like him to come back but on the other hand that would be really cheap (unless the makers have a brilliant innovative idea). |
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Post by Josh on Mar 1, 2010 8:53:31 GMT -8
Yeah, resurrection is so "cheap"   |
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Post by moritz on Mar 2, 2010 2:05:27 GMT -8
Yeah, resurrection is so "cheap" In fiction? Absolutely. |
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Post by Josh on Mar 2, 2010 7:39:50 GMT -8
It all depends on the mechanism of the resurrection, I'd say. But, then, I guess that agrees with your original point.
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Post by Josh on Mar 2, 2010 7:40:38 GMT -8
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Did the "lighthouse" make anyone think of the "wood between the worlds" in the "Magician's Nephew"?
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Post by michelle on Mar 2, 2010 15:33:53 GMT -8
I would really be disappointed if the real John Locke doesn't come back and find what he was looking for all those episodes. He was my favorite character before Smokie. Hm, I don't know. John was my favorite character from the start (later together with Sawyer). I hope Sayid takes over the island because he is a badass. Plus, now that we have an African American president it would be good for a Middle Eastern character to get to be at the top of the food chain and get to be a good guy! Down with the heroic white males. ;D |
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Post by michelle on Mar 2, 2010 15:45:36 GMT -8
Note the differences! Interpretations anyone? My interpretation is that there are 13 disciples... |
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