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Post by jaybee on Sept 29, 2014 16:16:08 GMT -8
Do the power vacuum issues we have seen with the deposing of leaders recently, and the way it has allowed evil entities to arise, support God's statement that we should submit to those in charge?
From our (the US's) direct removal of Saddam to our assistance with the fall of Gaddafi, we are learning the hard way that these people holding power was really key in preventing the greater evil we are seeing emerge.
Should the Christians of the western world, by lessons learned from sticking their nose in other nations' business, realize that God might have really had a purpose for all leaders in power? Even the evil dictators who hold the greater evil, ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc. at bay?
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Post by Josh on Sept 30, 2014 11:52:14 GMT -8
Just off-the-cuff here I would say that in so far as a leader is restraining evil that's the measure of their God given ordainment. In other words it isn't an all or nothing appointment. Some leaders are more in line with their role as a governor and some are less in line. Because of that I don't think there are easy answers. We are still left to assess where the tipping point is. But I would agree it's way more dubious if we are assessing that in a foreign country versus our own.
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Post by asaph on May 9, 2015 5:22:12 GMT -8
From a Christian point of view deposing leaders of any country, as an ambassador for Christ, should not even be on the table for discussion. Ambassadors, in the ideal sense, do not engage in such activity.
From an American, political point of view, the Founders believed in minding our own business and using military forces for defensive action, not global chess playing, and empire building.
As it states in Daniel 4:17, "This matter is by the decree of the watchers, and the demand by the word of the holy ones: to the intent that the living may know that the most High ruleth in the kingdom of men, and giveth it to whomsoever he will, and setteth up over it the basest of men."
I happen to believe the current POTUS is a dangerous fraud and threat to the Republic. His administration is a call to prayer and missionary activity, while the church is free to do so. Trying to oust him through political means, gathering political power, is not the gospel of Christ. It may be in the Declaration of Independence but, that is not, as great as it is, a heavenly inspired document. That is the rub of living in a Constitutional Republic as free citizens but still under the headship of Christ and our heavenly Father. We are to be about His business and deposing dictators (or wannabe dictators) is not in the program.
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