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Post by moritz on Mar 25, 2010 4:51:29 GMT -8
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Post by sarah on Mar 25, 2010 8:28:35 GMT -8
interesting....... I will be interested to see how this develops as more evidence is uncovered.
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Post by Josh on Mar 25, 2010 11:07:13 GMT -8
One little quibble. Neantherthal and this possible new species aren't ancestors of humans, even according to standards evolutionary theory. They would be cousins from other branches (as stated elsewhere in the article). A true ancestor would be something directly preceeding humans.
On a related note, Mo, have we ever discussed bipedal primates that came on the scene before humans? Do you know my views of them vis a vis creation, etc?
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Post by rbbailey on Mar 25, 2010 18:42:24 GMT -8
Keep going, keep going!
This is one of the last bits of my own Creation theory that I have not pieced together, and I need others' help to do it.
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Post by Josh on Mar 25, 2010 18:50:16 GMT -8
Well, I hold to an old universe and earth, as is probably obvious at this point. I also believe that there was animal death before Adam and Eve (and see nothing to the contrary in Scripture). So, I see these bipedal primates as advanced animals- animals that God created late on the 6th day before the advent of man. The significant difference between bipedal primates and homo erectus is that which the Bible attributes to "the image of God"- spiritual expression, philosophical reflection, and the awareness of moral laws.
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Post by rbbailey on Mar 25, 2010 19:03:00 GMT -8
Yeah, that's where I'm going as well, I just don't have all the details worked out yet. (Like I ever will...)
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Post by Josh on Mar 25, 2010 20:22:04 GMT -8
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Post by robin on Mar 26, 2010 7:12:00 GMT -8
Animal death before the fall could be consistent with both old and young earth views.
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Post by Josh on Mar 26, 2010 9:34:00 GMT -8
I suppose that's true. There are of course certain animals that need to eat within hours  |
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Post by robin on Mar 26, 2010 9:42:13 GMT -8
Well there is nothing in scripture that precludes the possibility, so I see no reason to hold that that position.
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Post by Josh on Mar 26, 2010 9:54:16 GMT -8
Many young-earthers (including ones I was influenced by early on) saw all death as a result of Adam's sin.
I actually have to say that there's something I like about that view- I think it explains animal suffering a bit better, but, the evidence doesn't seem to back it.
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