Down with GOP Up with Constitution

[krhagan19]

Check out this 3rd Party's platform. Its goal is to return America to the pro capitalist, socially conservative CHRISTIAN nation we were at the time of our founding.
Here is the national site: www.constitutionparty.com/
here is the Oregon site: www.constitutionpartyoregon.net/

The point of this thread is that here we clearly have a party that is ideal for us in our political belief's about the rights of a fetus to the individual liberties we have an individuals. Yet many of us have not heard of them because they are a third party. I say the time has come now for us conservatives or at least social conservatives to realize that we are getting screwed by the GOP. They talk values but they are controlled by wall street. I want to discuss here the efficacy supporting a 3rd party, even one almost sure to lose, if by supporting them, we are truly voting our conscience. Finally I want to discuss God place in politics and that if we a the body politic of Christians pray and fight for social justice, that if God steps in and help, then anything is possible. Perhaps we are getting exactly what we diserve by supporting a two party system where both parties are morally corrupt beyond repair and neither specifically mention the fact that we are a Christian nation in their charters.

[robin]

I'm a registered independent, that votes Republican, but I don't imagine that I will be wasting my constitutional right to vote on a third party. There is nothing wrong with the platform of the republican party. The problem is we have voted to put the wrong people in power within the party.

[Kirby]

CHRISTIAN nation we were at the time of our founding.

Art. 11 of the Treaty of Tripoli, signed and ratified by most of the same that signed the Constitution, direct quote,

Art. 11. As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion;

The framers of the constitution were just as

morally corrupt

as our leaders today. I hate how The Constitution Party members sanctify and worship our founding fathers, forgetting that they were largely drunken slave owners.

I do not like the two-party system, but all the Constitutionalists I've met are nuts, pragmatizing a 2 centuries old charter that is contextualized best in a 18th century world.

[Josh]

Kevin,

I also find the idea that we were once a "Christian nation" super problematic. Though the majority of the original population could have been considered "Christian", and though our society and government was obviously heavily influenced by our Judeo-Christian heritage, I don't see the Constitution as a primarily Christian document, but rather the result of Enlightenment Deism. And most of the Founding Fathers were not Christian in any meaningful sense of the word.

[krhagan19]

As our the ruling class today. History has the great man said is "Lies agreed upon." we are a nominally Christian nation, just slightly not "Post Christian."