Eternal Sonship of Jesus? Apr 22, 2008 16:27:55 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Apr 22, 2008 16:27:55 GMT -8
1. Was the 2nd person of the Trinity (the logos) always referred to as "the Son"? Or did He become the Son after the incarnation? The bible is not clear on that and even many Trinitarians (like myself) believe it's the latter.
Who has gone up to heaven and come down? Who has gathered up the wind in the hollow of his hands? Who has wrapped up the waters in his cloak? Who has established all the ends of the earth? What is his name, and the name of his son? Tell me if you know!
Here's an interesting (and rare) OT passage that possibly, depending on interpretation, mentions the notion of the Son of God. There are few others that could be pointed to: "Kiss the Son" in the Psalms, if translated correctly, etc..
So, do you see these and other implied references to sonship in the OT as just predictive of Sonship brought about by the incarnation rather than descriptive of a present reality?
It seems a lot of this might have to do with the debate regarding time/ open theism, etc.. But since I don't see God as limited or trapped within the present, or rather that the past, the present, and future are all equally accessable to God I lean toward seeing his Sonship as eternal.
If he was "slain before the foundation of the world", it makes sense (though not conclusively, I'd readily admit) that he always was in some sense the Son of God. Or, perhaps, on the other hand, it just doesn't make sense to speak of Sonship without a birth having occurred.
I suppose, based on all of this, I mostly lean to a paradoxical understanding of this matter which would probably answer both "yes" and "no" to the question of whether the Jesus was eternally the Son.