a miniature big bang?

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a miniature big bang? Sept 11, 2008 8:49:34 GMT -8

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Post by moritz on Sept 11, 2008 8:49:34 GMT -8

edition.cnn.com/2008/TECH/09/08/lhc.collider/index.html

Everytime I read about this project I can't help but drifting away thinking. What happens in the micro cosmos when we perform such experiments? We'll create small black holes that will collaps as fast as they came into being. Isn't that fascinating? We'll create black holes we won't ever know of. maybe we'll create a miniature universe. And while this miniature universe collapses within a short amount of human time, maybe it will be aeons of years in the perception of little creatures that emerged within this miniature universe. Maybe they'll worship us, the creators of their universe. Maybe they think we listen to their prayers while we are not even aware that they exist. Maybe this is how our universe was created too.

What do we actually know?

On a different note such experiments remind me of the Titanic, of the tower of Babel or the Tay Rail Bridge. We humans seem to think we can do everything, despise every risk. Bring nature to it's knees. We dig deeper and deeper and maybe we'll break the camel's back soon.

Just a few random thoughts.

„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

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a miniature big bang? Sept 11, 2008 20:38:06 GMT -8

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Post by Josh on Sept 11, 2008 20:38:06 GMT -8

Fascinating article that leaves you hanging (not to mention that this would make a great movie plot)

maybe we'll create a miniature universe. And while this miniature universe collapses within a short amount of human time, maybe it will be aeons of years in the perception of little creatures that emerged within this miniature universe. Maybe they'll worship us, the creators of their universe. Maybe they think we listen to their prayers while we are not even aware that they exist. Maybe this is how our universe was created too.

Though your mention of creatures does make me think about the question of the "origin of life" (aka life from non-life) which I don't think we've ever made the rounds on. There's already a good thread going on that:

Problems With Naturalism: the Origin of Life

You’ve got your methods
I’m done with trying to guess all your moves
I’m going where you want me to go
I’ve got nothing left to lose
Now I don’t wanna suffer
But that’s in fact the nature of the beast
If you want to get to higher ground
You got to get there on your knees

Terry Taylor

christopher ADF Support Team Threadmaster Rex ...and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God Posts: 1,394	a miniature big bang? Sept 11, 2008 21:09:28 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by christopher on Sept 11, 2008 21:09:28 GMT -8 I think Dr. Seuss already beat you to that one Mo.
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moritz Threadmaster Extraordinaire Posts: 770	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 3:04:32 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by moritz on Sept 12, 2008 3:04:32 GMT -8 Sept 11, 2008 21:09:28 GMT -8 christopher said: I think Dr. Seuss already beat you to that one Mo. don't know dr. seuss
	„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

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a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 9:28:28 GMT -8

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Post by christopher on Sept 12, 2008 9:28:28 GMT -8

What?

? You don't know Dr. Seuss? Are you joking?

Horton hears a who?
One fish, two fish, red fish, blue fish?
Cat in the hat?
The grinch who stole Christmas?
Star bellied sneeches?
Green eggs and ham?

You mean this isn't standard childhood fare around the world? I'm shocked....you guys are living in the literary third-world.

(that explains a lot

)

Now we have something to discuss about what should be in public education. ;D

"If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:31-32

amyleigh Intermediate Member Posts: 53	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 9:37:58 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by amyleigh on Sept 12, 2008 9:37:58 GMT -8 oh man I thought everyone knew who Dr Seuss was those are classics!!!!!

Josh Administrator Pastor, ACF Oh Oh Oh My God, my God, have you forsaken me Or is this grace disguised as adversity? Terry Taylor Posts: 9,888	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 9:47:15 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Josh on Sept 12, 2008 9:47:15 GMT -8 folks- try thinking about seuss rhyme schemes in german. it's just not happening. mo, did you purposefully not put Germany on your profile? i think you should sport it proudly!
	Last Edit: Sept 12, 2008 9:49:44 GMT -8 by Josh You’ve got your methods I’m done with trying to guess all your moves I’m going where you want me to go I’ve got nothing left to lose Now I don’t wanna suffer But that’s in fact the nature of the beast If you want to get to higher ground You got to get there on your knees Terry Taylor

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a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 10:07:31 GMT -8

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Post by amyleigh on Sept 12, 2008 10:07:31 GMT -8

Ok well now that you mention it Dr Seuss in german ya that might be a mouthfull!!! I knew he was from elsewhere in his profile it says something about forgive me for my grammer I be a foreigner or something to that effect!

But really I thought everyone knew who Dr Suess was guess thats what happens when I think ;D

Josh Administrator Pastor, ACF Oh Oh Oh My God, my God, have you forsaken me Or is this grace disguised as adversity? Terry Taylor Posts: 9,888	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 11:13:09 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Josh on Sept 12, 2008 11:13:09 GMT -8 I think your thinker works just fine! It's been great getting your input.
	You’ve got your methods I’m done with trying to guess all your moves I’m going where you want me to go I’ve got nothing left to lose Now I don’t wanna suffer But that’s in fact the nature of the beast If you want to get to higher ground You got to get there on your knees Terry Taylor

christopher ADF Support Team Threadmaster Rex ...and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God Posts: 1,394	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 13:39:16 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by christopher on Sept 12, 2008 13:39:16 GMT -8 ein Fisch, zwei fischen, rote Fische, blaue Fische. Zis iz vy ve ned der Inglesh techen en al ze skulz. ;D
	Last Edit: Sept 12, 2008 13:42:14 GMT -8 by christopher "If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:31-32

amyleigh Intermediate Member Posts: 53	a miniature big bang? Sept 12, 2008 13:54:38 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by amyleigh on Sept 12, 2008 13:54:38 GMT -8 LOL sadly I understood every word of that it dosent sound that horribly bad!!

moritz Threadmaster Extraordinaire Posts: 770	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 3:34:10 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by moritz on Sept 13, 2008 3:34:10 GMT -8 Sept 12, 2008 9:28:28 GMT -8 christopher said: What?? You don't know Dr. Seuss? Are you joking? you guys are living in the literary third-world. This reminds me of something ;D:
	„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

moritz Threadmaster Extraordinaire Posts: 770	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 3:36:02 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by moritz on Sept 13, 2008 3:36:02 GMT -8 Sept 12, 2008 13:39:16 GMT -8 christopher said: ein Fisch, zwei fischen, rote Fische, blaue Fische. Zis iz vy ve ned der Inglesh techen en al ze skulz. ;D and this reminds me of a brilliant joke about Germans:
	„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

moritz Threadmaster Extraordinaire Posts: 770	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 3:49:46 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by moritz on Sept 13, 2008 3:49:46 GMT -8 Sept 12, 2008 9:37:58 GMT -8 amyleigh said: oh man I thought everyone knew who Dr Seuss was those are classics!!!!! We have a vast amount of traditional fairytales. No need for import here.
	„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

moritz Threadmaster Extraordinaire Posts: 770	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 3:50:46 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by moritz on Sept 13, 2008 3:50:46 GMT -8 Sept 12, 2008 9:47:15 GMT -8 Josh said: mo, did you purposefully not put Germany on your profile? i think you should sport it proudly! did I actually put anything on my profile?
	„Die Zivilisierung der Monotheismen ist abgeschlossen, sobald die Menschen sich für gewisse Äußerungen ihres Gottes, die unglücklicherweise schriftlich festgehalten wurden, schämen wie für die Auftritte eines im allgemeinen sehr netten, doch jähzornigen Großvaters, den man seit längerem nicht mehr ohne Begleitung in die Öffentlichkeit lässt.” - Peter Sloterdijk

christopher ADF Support Team Threadmaster Rex ...and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God Posts: 1,394	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 7:32:24 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by christopher on Sept 13, 2008 7:32:24 GMT -8 Mo, The map and the video had me rolling on the floor laughing. I love those guys.
	"If you abide in My word, you are My disciples indeed. And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free." John 8:31-32

amyleigh Intermediate Member Posts: 53	a miniature big bang? Sept 13, 2008 9:09:36 GMT -8 Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by amyleigh on Sept 13, 2008 9:09:36 GMT -8 Mo~ Just saw the map and the video are good I havent laughed like that for a long time!!!!

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