God's law vs Worldly law.

[LadyAjax]

This made me think of the discussion on Sunday... I don't know why

www.gocomics.com/speedbump/2012/12/10/

One of the comments below the comic:
"After the Jewish legal dept got ahold of The Ten Commandments, we ended up with 613!"

[stevekimes]

Don't know if this has been discussed on the forum, but SHOULD we be following the ten commandments. I think it's a good idea to follow some of the big ones: don't murder, steal, commit adultery... but what about the Sabbath? How many of us work on Saturday? What about applications of taking the Lord's name in vain? How many people take that seriously? Should we?

[Josh]

Somewhat related, here's a bit I wrote on how the 10 Commandments are often misunderstood/ misinterpreted:

www.aletheia.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=exodus&action=display&thread=475&page=1

In regard to the Sabbath, I think the way we honor it has changed, as it is fulfilled in Jesus and the church, but we still honor it.

[christopher]

Jesus said His father works on the sabbath and therefore so does He (John 5:17)

I believe we are supposed to keep Jesus' commandments in the new covenant (Matt 28:20) and he never commanded us to observe the Sabbath. Rather, the sabbath was made for man, not man for the sabbath. I believe the OT sabbath commandment was a type symbolizing the permanent sabbath rest we were to have in Christ (Heb 4). Jesus fulfilled all the commandments and therefore they are no longer applicable to us. However, in instituting the new covenant, he did cast an even broader all-encompassing commandment than the old covenant could ever achieve. That is love (John 13:34, Mark 12:29-31).

But I don't think Jesus would put sabbath keeping in the category of love IMO.

[Alex]

I think in the commandments God put to his people what was important. Jesus fulfilling the law didn't change what he valued.

Taking God's name in vain is a flaw we've grown accustomed to, but I don't expect he appreciates invoking his name in evil or disrespect any more now than then. I expect we don't realize the spiritual ramifications of trifling with words of consequence.

Of the Sabbath I agree Jesus offers a greater rest, but even the traditional meaning hasn't been lost to us; we haven't followed it to its extreme as the Jews did, who tended to lose the heart to ritual, but who among us would never take a day of the week off of regular work - be it work in industry or help at home. Like you say it was made for us, not God.


We appreciated the heat in context of the cold; and the cold from the heat.