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Ruth 1
Aug 2, 2010 20:43:54 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Aug 2, 2010 20:43:54 GMT -8
Ruth will be our next study, starting of course with chapter 1. Post your comments, questions, and discussion starters as replies to this post.
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Ruth 1
Sept 4, 2010 1:01:24 GMT -8
Post by michelle on Sept 4, 2010 1:01:24 GMT -8
HELLOOO!!!! I just read this book and used it as a devotional for our breakfast. Great stuff! I'm moved by Ruth's relationship with her mother-in-law. How many daughters-in-law now can say that they would do this same thing with their mothers-in-law? It seems pretty unheard of nowadays. Clearly Naomi must have been a good witness to who God was that Ruth would leave her gods for the One True God!
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Ruth 1
Sept 7, 2010 9:11:37 GMT -8
Post by robin on Sept 7, 2010 9:11:37 GMT -8
I did the mothers day teaching this year at Aletheia, and I focused on Naomi and Ruth as an example of motherly love. I'm pleased to see that you were able to glean the same from the book.
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Ruth 1
Sept 7, 2010 20:14:12 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 7, 2010 20:14:12 GMT -8
Yay! Swaziland showed up on the Google Analytics for our website. Go Swaziland!!!!
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Ruth 1
Sept 13, 2010 19:37:27 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 13, 2010 19:37:27 GMT -8
I have a question-
What's your opinion of Naomi when reading this chapter? I think I've always looked on her as a one-dimensional heroine, but I think the details make her a lot more complex.
Also, why do you suppose she encourages Orpah (and Ruth) to stay in Moab with their gods (v. 15) when she knows the one true God?
I have a theory on this I'd like to develop- but what do you all think?
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Ruth 1
Sept 13, 2010 20:52:10 GMT -8
Post by christopher on Sept 13, 2010 20:52:10 GMT -8
Hey, why do you always ask for everyone else's opinion before you give yours? No fair.
My $.02
Naomi must have been a very good and godly mother-in-law for most of her time with the Ruth and Oprah, else why would they be broken up about leaving her?
But I think she became a little embittered and maybe even a little conniving after she experience her great loss (Mara means "bitter:.. Ruth 1:20). Understandable. But at the same time, Ruth also lost a husband and still remained pretty humble and faithful it seems, and probably more of a godly woman than Naomi in the end IMO.
I think maybe Naomi even gave up on God at one point, which would explain why she implored her daughters-in-law to stay with their domestic gods and their people.
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Sept 14, 2010 16:20:03 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 14, 2010 16:20:03 GMT -8
Hey, why do you always ask for everyone else's opinion before you give yours? No fair. it tends to kill the discussion when i jump right in.
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Ruth 1
Sept 15, 2010 19:23:53 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 15, 2010 19:23:53 GMT -8
Anyway, Chris, I'm in agreement with your take on Naomi and I think that's what I'm going to focus in on- losing your spiritual bearings and finding them again despite hardship- something along those lines.
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Ruth 1
Sept 19, 2010 18:32:28 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 19, 2010 18:32:28 GMT -8
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Ruth 1
Feb 4, 2012 11:29:34 GMT -8
Post by Jeremy on Feb 4, 2012 11:29:34 GMT -8
Here's the work I was talking about in trying to answer the question: Is Ruth really about Ruth? I counted the occurrences of the proper nouns in Ruth as you see below to attempt an answer at least in one form.
Don't forget to scroll down if you're curious how it works.
$ cat ruth1.txt ruth2.txt ruth3.txt ruth4.txt | sed -e 's/ /\n/g;s/[^a-zA-Z0-9\n]//g' | grep -e "^[A-Z]" | sort | uniq -c | sort -r 29 I 25 Naomi 21 Boaz 20 Ruth 17 LORD 16 Then 12 So 9 When 8 May 8 Bethlehem 7 Moabite 7 And 6 The 6 She 6 Moab 6 Elimelek 5 Israel 4 Now 4 He 4 But 4 At 3 Where 3 Return 3 Perez 3 Obed 3 Mahlon 3 Kilion 3 Judah 3 Jesse 3 God 3 For 3 Don▒t 3 David 2 You 2 Why 2 This 2 They 2 Stay 2 Ram 2 Orpah 2 Nahshon 2 In 2 Hezron 2 Go 2 Even 2 As 2 Amminadab 1 Your 1 Would 1 With 1 We 1 Watch 1 Wash 1 Tonight 1 Today 1 Through 1 Tamar 1 Son 1 Salmond 1 Salmon 1 Ruth▒ 1 Ruth▒s 1 Rachel 1 One 1 No 1 Naomi▒s 1 Naomib 1 Meanwhile 1 Marac 1 Mahlon▒s 1 Look 1 Lie 1 Leah 1 LORD▒s 1 Just 1 Judah▒ 1 It 1 If 1 Her 1 Have 1 Genealogy 1 Gains 1 Ephrathites 1 Ephrathah 1 Can 1 Call 1 Boaz▒ 1 Blessed 1 Am 1 Although 1 Almightyd 1 Almighty 1 All 1 After
So, summarizing it all, Naomi is mentioned 27 times and both Ruth and Boaz received 22 nods.
You can think of the above command as a chain of operations; the output of one command is the input to the next in the sequence and so on. The | (pipe) character delimits each command.
The first command prints out the entire text of Ruth (stored in four different text files I had courtesy of biblegateway.com NIV):
cat ruth1.txt ruth2.txt ruth3.txt ruth4.txt
The next command takes the output from the first command and puts each word on a separate line then strips out any non-alphanumeric characters (as best as possible); I don't want punctuation brackets, parenthesis etc:
sed -e 's/ /\n/g;s/[^a-zA-Z0-9\n]//g'
The next command in the chain searches the output of the previous work (each alphanumeric word on a separate line) and prints out only lines with capitalized words:
grep -e "^[A-Z]"
Finally, with the last three commands in the chain, we sort the list so all the duplicates are grouped together (ie, we want Boaz words to appear on 21 consecutive lines and so on), then we count up all the duplicate lines indicating how many occurrences there were before the name and finally we sort those lines in reverse order (by their counts) to get the final list you see above.
sort | uniq -c | sort -r
Overall it was a quick and dirty way to get a reasonable result. It doesn't account for minor things like excluding words at the beginning of a sentence, or grouping the "Boaz's" into "Boaz". "Naomib" shows up because it was "Naomi " in the original text and I stripped out all non-alphanumeric characters before doing the counting so it leaves "Naomib" as a separate word (Marac is the same thing). All of which could be fixed but it works for my purposes.
I leave it as an exercise to the reader to identify the speaker in the 29 occurrences of the first person pronoun "I" and amend the existing counts accordingly. Do the rankings change at all, ie, does Ruth (or Boaz) move to the top?
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Ruth 1
Feb 4, 2012 21:45:27 GMT -8
Post by christopher on Feb 4, 2012 21:45:27 GMT -8
Well done Jeremy
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