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Post by mrta on Sept 11, 2009 14:54:17 GMT -8
- My question for everyone is ''How to understand each other in different believes, not only in regards to GOD but in regards to the everyday life IF you strongly believe in something, and someone else believes the total opposite - ........... how can you make yourself ''open'' to the other persons view (s) ................
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Post by yeshuafreak on Sept 11, 2009 15:48:20 GMT -8
why do we have to be open? why cant you be open to my view of not being open? (even though that is not my view).
you see, people who stress "tolerance" often try and convince other people of their own view of "tolerance" and any view against it is wrong- they do the very thing they condemn!
but to answer your question: if i believe strongly in something and someone says something totallly opposite, than i would inform them of my view without shoving it down their throat, possibly have a civilized debate (not argument), and not mention it again. i would have planted the seed then, and would have hoped the seed landed ont he good soil. if thats the case than he will find one who will water the seed, and by the grace of God it will grow.
my calling is to plant the seed, and as i get education i am to water it.
shalom- john
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Post by ben on Sept 11, 2009 15:52:21 GMT -8
I think I can be open to another person's view even if I did not agree. However if I was being condescending than I would be a jerk.
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Post by Josh on Sept 11, 2009 16:12:27 GMT -8
Here's my take:
I think it's good to be "open" to other's views if "open" simply means seeking to understand and not having thoughtless prejudices.
However, like yeshuafreak said, I don't think we have to be "open" in the sense of making ourselves agree just to avoid a conflict.
The thing is, though, that, because of Jesus, we can LOVE others with whom we have a genuine disagreement. I think how He does this in our lives is by teaching us to not let our differences affect the way we treat the other person. Another way of saying this is that LOVE is not negotiable or conditional to the Christian. Jesus loved those who disagreed with Him, so we should too. And in the process God can teach us some wonderful things about love and about ourselves.
That said, it can be really hard to love someone if you disagree with them about something you hold very dear.
But that's why God tells us to put love above our other priorities.
(1 Corinthians 13)
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Post by Kirby on Sept 11, 2009 20:53:24 GMT -8
I like to consider myself open to any point of view, because I in no way claim I am right. I believe what I believe, but when I hear new information or perspective, I weigh it against what I know to determine if if my beliefs change or not. It does not make sense to me to not be tolerant. Any perspective should be welcome, even if it is polarized from your own, if only to strengthen your own. You miss out on so much of life by not keeping you eyes, ears, and mind open.
Amen.
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Post by christopher on Sept 11, 2009 21:48:11 GMT -8
Hi Martha, I'm not sure I totally understand the question, but we're told to... 1 Peter 3:15Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect... NIV
I think the Truth is important to defend because it sets people free (John 8:32), so gently leading people to truth is more loving than simply letting someone remain in untruth. The problem is, it's not always easy to know the truth about everything so we must be very charitible about it. Jesus said that the Holy Spirit would lead believers into all truth (John 16:13) and I believe he eventually will. But it doesn't mean there isn't some working it out to be done and that needs to be done in love.
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Post by yeshuafreak on Sept 12, 2009 6:45:40 GMT -8
for esample, i disagree with Krhagen and Josh, but both are blessings in my life, and i have brotherly love towards both. but we still have debates,and i have gotten hostile towards Kevin, lord forgive me, but ew forgive each other, move on, and continue in our relationship with life.
i think we should teach them the truth, but i think we should through their arguments. for example, R. Sha'ul went to a greek pagan temple and used THE UNKNOWN GOD to teach the pagans the truth. to the jews, he used Torah to prove that we need Jesus! we need to fully understand the peoples mindset that we are talking to, find the whole in it (all false doctrines have whols) and show how YHVH deals with that whole.
shalom- john
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Post by krhagan19 on Sept 12, 2009 17:25:51 GMT -8
I believe in free speech so long as I have the freedom to ignore the speech being given.
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Post by yeshuafreak on Sept 12, 2009 21:05:13 GMT -8
lol krhagen. very good political argument.
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