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John 13
Sept 24, 2007 20:21:50 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 24, 2007 20:21:50 GMT -8
Please post your comments/ questions/ discussion starters on John chapter 13 as replies here.
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John 13
Sept 24, 2007 20:28:32 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 24, 2007 20:28:32 GMT -8
Phrases I love from John 13:
v. 1 Having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.
v. 7 Jesus replied, "You do not realize now what I am doing, but later you will understand."
v. 36 Simon Peter asked him, "Lord, where are you going?" Jesus replied, "Where I am going, you cannot follow now, but you will follow later."
v. 12-17 When he had finished washing their feet, he put on his clothes and returned to his place. "Do you understand what I have done for you?" he asked them. "You call me 'Teacher' and 'Lord,' and rightly so, for that is what I am. Now that I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also should wash one another's feet. I have set you an example that you should do as I have done for you. I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him. Now that you know these things, you will be blessed if you do them.
The whole last half of the book of John contains so much tenderness and intimacy.
I love that last section because it shows what Christian leadership is like- it is known by a servant's heart. For some reason that last verse is hitting me hard tonight-- especially the 'do them' part.
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John 13
Sept 27, 2007 15:56:04 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Sept 27, 2007 15:56:04 GMT -8
30As soon as Judas had taken the bread, he went out. And it was night.
I've always found that phrase "and it was night" one of the most ominious verses in Scripture.
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John 13
Oct 5, 2007 14:24:52 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Oct 5, 2007 14:24:52 GMT -8
8"No," said Peter, "you shall never wash my feet." Jesus answered, "Unless I wash you, you have no part with me."
Blomberg points out an interesting parallel to Peter's words in Acts 8:
18When Simon saw that the Spirit was given at the laying on of the apostles' hands, he offered them money 19and said, "Give me also this ability so that everyone on whom I lay my hands may receive the Holy Spirit."
20Peter answered: "May your money perish with you, because you thought you could buy the gift of God with money! 21You have no part or share in this ministry, because your heart is not right before God. 22Repent of this wickedness and pray to the Lord. Perhaps he will forgive you for having such a thought in your heart. 23For I see that you are full of bitterness and captive to sin."
Did Jesus' rebuke of Peter inspire Peter's later rebuke of Simon Magus? Peter knew what he was talking about!
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John 13
Oct 5, 2007 14:32:04 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Oct 5, 2007 14:32:04 GMT -8
21After he had said this, Jesus was troubled in spirit and testified, "I tell you the truth, one of you is going to betray me."
22His disciples stared at one another, at a loss to know which of them he meant. 23One of them, the disciple whom Jesus loved, was reclining next to him. 24Simon Peter motioned to this disciple and said, "Ask him which one he means."
25Leaning back against Jesus, he asked him, "Lord, who is it?"
26Jesus answered, "It is the one to whom I will give this piece of bread when I have dipped it in the dish." Then, dipping the piece of bread, he gave it to Judas Iscariot, son of Simon. 27As soon as Judas took the bread, Satan entered into him.
"What you are about to do, do quickly," Jesus told him, 28but no one at the meal understood why Jesus said this to him. 29Since Judas had charge of the money, some thought Jesus was telling him to buy what was needed for the Feast, or to give something to the poor.
A couple things from Blomberg on the historical realism in this passage.
1) A creator of fiction would probably have just had John or Peter ask Jesus who would betray him directly, instead of having Peter ask John ask Jesus. But this makes sense if it really happened, as we know that John was sitting closer to Jesus, and this must have been a 'whispered exchange'.
2) It's also realistic that the rest of the disciples wouldn't have thought it strange for Judas to leave just then to give alms to the poor, because almsgiving was explicitly commanded on the eve of Passover. That a Greek minded author of fiction would have thought of that seems unlikely.
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