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Post by Josh on Nov 29, 2011 20:54:08 GMT -8
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Post by Josh on Nov 29, 2011 20:56:03 GMT -8
Also, I mentioned in the teaching that I had created my own "rating system" for OT prophecies. You can find more on that and my take on numerous OT prophecies here: Prophetic Fulfillment I'd love to hear more questions and comments there (it's a passion of mine, but for some reason not a lot of people have jumped into discussion about fulfilled prophecy on the forums) |
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Post by stevekimes on Dec 4, 2011 10:51:04 GMT -8
It seems that replies are turned off on the prophetic fullfillment? That was disappointing... I had specific comments  |
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Post by Josh on Dec 4, 2011 15:59:38 GMT -8
Sorry about that. I wonder how that happened?
No wonder people haven't been posting there!!!!
It should be fixed now.
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Post by Josh on Dec 5, 2011 22:29:36 GMT -8
My notes, for what they're worth:
So far we have attempting to read the Psalms as we suppose they were originally meant to be read. But that is not how most Christians have chiefly used them. Christians have always held the Psalms to contain second or hidden meanings related to the central truths of the New Testament: the Incarnation, Jesus’ death, the Resurrection, the hope of the afterlife. This is how Christians have treated the entirety of the Old Testmanet- that it takes on its full significance only in light of events which happened long after it was written.
There is deep modern distrust of this approach. Why? Because, as we know, almost anything can be read into any book if you are determined enough. Lewis specifically mentions his fiction writing- some things read into his work that he wished he had actually intended them!
The concern is that the field of self deception is very wide. So how can we have confidence that the second meanings we might see in a particular text are sound?
Well, first Lewis helps us by differentiated different types/ degrees of second meanings.
Give two examples from pages 100-101 of Reflections on the Psalms
Introduce the chart (read the definition of Directional Congeniality on page 102) , then assign the two examples a number"
1. Chance Unintended Second Meanings (Accidental, Lucky)
2. “Directional Congeniality” (the later truth is intimately related to the truth the author did know)
3. Direct Revelation (Prophetic, Supernatural)
Then read the 4 examples on 103-104 and assign them numbers.
Reasons we should expect to find “double meanings” in the Scripture:
1. God’s superintending inspiration- one mind behind the many author’s minds- a mind that knows the future.
2. Jesus said that the OT was full of double meanings:
READ Luke 24:25-27- Jesus is claiming that HE is the double meaning of Scripture.
Passages with “double meanings” can be found throughout the scripture. Some of them might seem more like chance/ questionable, others seem to jump off the page as uncanny, but many remain in the middle, which are usually the ones that are very affirming to those committed to the faith but not super convincing to those who are skeptical. We need to be humble about the questionable ones (What we see when we think we are looking into the depths of Scripture may sometimes be only the reflection of our own silly faces- C.S. Lewis)
To help us sort these second meanings out, we need some tools:
Understanding of the Language of Scripture
Understanding of the Inter-Connectedness of Scripture
Understanding of the Historical Development of Interpretation of Certain Passages (esp. Rabbinical writings) This tool has often in my mind bumped up a prophetic passages from level 1 to 2 or 3.
Messianic Psalms to Study:
Psalm 2, 22, 45, 72, 80, 110, (118?), 132
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