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Post by Josh on Dec 12, 2008 12:15:09 GMT -8
Lewis and Clark or Neil Armstrong?   Being a history teacher, I'm on a history kick. |
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Post by Margot on Dec 12, 2008 22:56:07 GMT -8
Okay, so maybe my mind is forever trapped in Mom-mode, but doesn't that picture of the Apollo 11 landing look like he has a little moonperson on his back? Photo confirmation of extraterrestrials? You be the judge.
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Post by Josh on Dec 13, 2008 7:22:56 GMT -8
So, you're gonna vote for Apollo 11, right?
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Post by steve on Dec 13, 2008 14:27:17 GMT -8
I'm for Lewis and Clark. Why? Ask Larry Norman.
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Post by Josh on Dec 14, 2008 11:00:16 GMT -8
"They brought back a big bag of rocks...
Only cost two hundered forty seven billion.
Must be nice rocks"
--Reader's Digest, Larry Norman
Ah, took me a while to put 2 and 2 together!
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Post by steve on Dec 14, 2008 14:03:04 GMT -8
You're getting slow.
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Post by robin on Dec 15, 2008 10:13:04 GMT -8
Really? Lewis & Clark over the Moon landing? That surprises me. To me these is no comparison. Although the Lewis & Clark expedition was extraordinary, I can't see how it would compare with the Moon landing.
Robin
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Post by Margot on Dec 15, 2008 11:31:12 GMT -8
Although the Lewis & Clark expedition was extraordinary, I can't see how it would compare with the Moon landing. Robin More fresh---uh---more air. |
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Post by robin on Dec 15, 2008 11:54:51 GMT -8
Although the Lewis & Clark expedition was extraordinary, I can't see how it would compare with the Moon landing. Robin More fresh---uh---more air. Of course, but neither of these events are important because of their respective air qualities. |
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Post by Josh on Dec 15, 2008 12:02:06 GMT -8
I voted for Lewis and Clark from the perspective of which journey would be more adventurous and intriguing to me.
The story of the Lewis and Clark expedition takes so many unexpected twists and turns, so much diversity is encountered, plus, ironically, they faced much more isolation that any space mission has experienced.
Or maybe I'm just an earth-lubber.
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Post by steve on Dec 16, 2008 13:32:12 GMT -8
The lunar landing was more of symbol than anything. THe amount of scientific research which it accomplished simply isn't as significant as the important geographical, anthropological, and biological data gathered by the Lewis and Clark expedition.
This has to of course be seen in the light of the times they were living. If Lewis and Clark had reach the moon in 1803, it would take on a much greater significance. And admitedly, we wouldn't be too impressed with a couple of dudes traveling across america in 1969. But if you flip the situations, the importance of that in 1803 for the time they were living outweighs that of 1969. (in my humble opinion.)
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Post by Margot on Dec 16, 2008 18:14:29 GMT -8
More fresh---uh---more air. Of course, but neither of these events are important because of their respective air qualities. Okay, Robin, I've lost you. Wasn't the original post: Poll Question: Would you rather have been on the Lewis and Clark expedition or the Apollo 11 moon landing?As my students would say: that don't got no nothing to do about which is more important! When did we switch to talking about which is more important?  (As you can see, I am easily confused...) |
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Post by Margot on Dec 16, 2008 18:16:16 GMT -8
P.S. The Lewis and Clark Expedition, hands down.
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Post by Josh on Dec 16, 2008 18:20:27 GMT -8
Margot, you can vote at the top (select Lewis and Clark)
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Post by moritz on Dec 23, 2008 15:57:16 GMT -8
they faced much more isolation that any space mission has experienced. What do you mean by this? I'm not familiar with that expedition. It sounds odd and interesting that they should have been more isolated than people who left the planet. I mean whereever there is nature there is life. Even the desert breathes. I would guess that Lewis and Clark were surrounded by life all the time, quite in contrast to the astronauts. Anyway, I've dreamed so often with the stars, I don't know how many thoughts I've send out to space and how often I've been overwhelmed by philosophical inspiration when I gazed into a cloudless starry night.... I think I would trade all my material possessions to step on the moon just once. I vote Apollo 11. |
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Post by Josh on Dec 23, 2008 21:37:41 GMT -8
I suppose you noted that that should have read "than any space mission" instead of "that any space mission". Well, first off, I'm hugely interested in the Lewis and Clark expedition for a lot of reasons. First off, I read Undaunted Courage by the late great Stephen Ambrose (a formost American historian) and have fascinated ever since. But living in Oregon gives the expedition special significance because their final destination was right here on the Oregon coast. Anyway, there's a great Ken Burns (a formost American documentarian  documentary on Lewis and Clark (the Corps of Discovery) which I love and in it a comparsion/ contrast is made with the Apollo 11 mission. That's where I got the idea for this thread. The historians in the documentary point out that though the Apollo 11 astronauts physically travelled further away from human contact, they were in contast contact with mission control. The psychological benefits of this communication with home can perhaps not be over-stressed. Lewis and Clark, however, might as well have been travelling to the moon, off the map into the unkown. They committed to 2 years of grueling travel through difficult and diverse terrain and sometimes hostile people groups. Several things that happened on the trip are so outlandish you'd never have written them into a fiction account- saved at the last minute several times. But all the while they had no communication from home and only once were able to send word back (and that only early on). But it all depends on how one defines isolation. I have no idea how astronauts feel about the separation they experience from the earth, but I'd guess that after a while distance becomes moot. Having that radio contact, though, that would be a tremendous boon. Just some thoughts. I didn't know you'd dreamed of the stars. Nice. And interesting implications about the solace of the proximity of living things. |
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Post by Margot on Dec 24, 2008 10:37:05 GMT -8
You've got me interested in that book, Josh!
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(As you can see, I am easily confused...)
documentary on Lewis and Clark (the Corps of Discovery) which I love and in it a comparsion/ contrast is made with the Apollo 11 mission. That's where I got the idea for this thread.