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Post by robin on Nov 18, 2009 16:12:40 GMT -8
I see your point, and I can see that it may very well be correct. However, Jesus uttered many words, not all were meant to apply universally throughout the ages. Jesus' words are comforting to me in the sense that it shows that God truly is Just, and takes not only our actions, but also circumstances into consideration when judging us.
But I must disagree on your overall point that Jesus was seeking acquittal of all involved in His persecution and crucification. It seems to me that there were some in power who new very well who Jesus was (remember Nicodemus?), yet they chose to fear Rome, and not God (John 11:48). Or perhaps they just loved their positions of honor and power(Matthew 6), and could see that if Jesus were the Messiah that they stood to lose all they loved, and instead Jesus would appoint fishermen, and tax collectors to rule with Him.
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Post by Josh on Nov 18, 2009 17:27:58 GMT -8
Oi, not this thread again!!!!
I have yet to read robin and rbbailey's points but bravo for making hay out krhagan's enigmatic post.
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Post by Josh on Nov 18, 2009 20:08:44 GMT -8
I'd like to add to this that according to Jesus himself, many of the Jews of that generation did suffer specific punishment for their rejection of Jesus as Messiah (cf. Matt 22:7, Luke 21:23) in a way that later generations would not.
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Post by robin on Nov 19, 2009 8:36:04 GMT -8
I'm still wondering if Kevin was being serious here. one way or the other, it's a rather strange comment.
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