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Post by dattaswami on Nov 20, 2007 18:35:23 GMT -8
During the propagation of God’s knowledge in the world, sometimes opposition comes up. How should we respond to this?
Ans. Even God keeps silent to such opposition and therefore you need not bother about that issue. The teacher knows that a particular student will not pass even if he is taught. But the student will blame the teacher that he failed only because the teacher did not teach him. To avoid this unnecessary blame only, the teacher teaches all the students in the class. Similarly God likes to propagate His divine knowledge to the entire humanity so that no soul should blame Him in the final enquiry. You are serving God in the propagation of the divine knowledge so that no soul blames Him later on. Your responsibility ends with the propagation and in fact the responsibility of God also ends with that. The propagation of divine knowledge of Jesus is a failure if you limit the program to the span of His life only. It became tremendously successful if you consider the period extended to the present day. Therefore the failure and success cannot be decided by a short span of time.
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Post by Josh on Nov 20, 2007 20:47:46 GMT -8
Hello, and welcome to the ACF boards, dattaswami!
How did you find us? Where do you live?
So, I'm soaking in your posts today and have a few thoughts and questions.
First off, what religious perspective are you coming from? Your questions and answers presuppose certain beliefs which might need more illumination for those of us who have the opportunity to get to know you.
Obviously, I detect some Hindu philosophy/ worldview (not least your mention of Hanuman... now, let's see, he is the monkey god from the Ramayana, right?) Your references to Jesus might indicate perhaps a view akin to Hare Krishna? Ba'hai?
I think it's helpful in these kinds of discussion to define our terms well.
What is your definition of God? What is your definition of Jesus?
The reason I'm posting on this one is because I had some specific thoughts on this section:
In the New Testament, Paul is an example of someone who did often respond to intellectual opposition, and was commended for it. He also encourages his disciples to "rebuke false teaching with all authority", etc.. implying that God does want us to resist opposition to the knowledge of God through prayer, loving actions, but also through persuasion of the Truth.
In historical, orthodox Christianity there is a long tradition of defending the doctrines of Scripture through apologetics, providing rational defenses for the claims of the New Testament, going back to the disciples themselves.
Also, what exactly do you think the "divine knowledge of Jesus" has to offer outside of what we know of His earthly lifespan? Depending on what you mean exactly, I might agree or totally disagree.
More info would be helpful. And certainly we shouldn't fear disagreement. Helpful, clarifying dialogue is a goal of ours here.
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Post by dattaswami on Nov 24, 2007 1:46:05 GMT -8
God has no beginning and no end because God is unimaginable. The beginning and the end must be also unimaginable for an unimaginable item. The beginning and the end of the cosmic energy or space or the creation are also unimaginable. Therefore, the beginning and the end are unimaginable for the unimaginable item like God and also for the imaginable item like space. Therefore, the two points, which are the beginning-less and end-less characteristics cannot help you in understanding the real nature of God. If you start recognizing the God by simply these two points (beginning-less and end-less), you may think that God is an imaginable item like the space or energy or the creation. In fact based on these two characteristics people have imagined God as an imaginable item like space or energy or creation. This concept has misled people to such a low level that people think that God is the very infinite space or infinite energy or infinite creation. Therefore, one should filter the concept of God at this juncture itself. One should think that God has no beginning and no end because the beginning and the end of an unimaginable item are also unimaginable.
Such God comes down in human form to preach and uplift human shouls known as human incarnation, so that we can touch Him, talk to Him, see Him and co-live with Him and clear all our doubts. He is known as Immanuael.
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Post by Josh on Nov 24, 2007 20:38:32 GMT -8
Thanks for some info on your definition of God.
Am I hearing you correctly that you see space, energy, and the creation itself as beginning-less? I will certainly grant that God is without beginning or end, and is therefore in many ways unimaginable (although I would argue not completely unimaginable), but in regard to time, space, energy, and matter, do you reject the hot big bang model of the origin of the universe, which persuasively indicates that all space, time, matter, and energy came into being at a finite beginning?
Also, from a perusal of your website, am I correct in assuming that you see Jesus as merely one manifestation of "Immanuel" among many?
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