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Post by Josh on Oct 30, 2013 18:06:57 GMT -8
"I am a sinner"(in response to the question "who is Jorge Mario Bergoglio?") He continued, "This is the most accurate definition. It is not a figure of speech."  I've heard enough of Pope Francis that I think he warrants a thread. Overall, I've been pretty impressed by his example. If you've noticed any interesting quotes by the current Pope, post them here for discussion (pro or con, doesn't matter)
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Post by robin on Oct 31, 2013 23:25:55 GMT -8
“In ideologies there is not Jesus: in his tenderness, his love, his meekness. And ideologies are rigid, always. Of every sign: rigid. And when a Christian becomes a disciple of the ideology, he has lost the faith: he is no longer a disciple of Jesus, he is a disciple of this attitude of thought… For this reason Jesus said to them: ‘You have taken away the key of knowledge.’ The knowledge of Jesus is transformed into an ideological and also moralistic knowledge, because these close the door with many requirements. The faith becomes ideology and ideology frightens, ideology chases away the people, distances, distances the people and distances of the Church of the people. But it is a serious illness, this of ideological Christians. It is an illness, but it is not new, eh?”
“I believe in God, not in a Catholic God. There is no Catholic God, there is God and I believe in Jesus Christ, his incarnation,”
“Jesus is my teacher and my pastor, but God, the Father, Abba, is the light and the Creator. This is my Being.”
"each person must choose to follow the good and fight evil as he conceives them” and calling efforts to convert people to Christianity “solemn nonsense.”
"I then greet and cordially thank you all, dear friends belonging to other religious traditions; first of all the Muslims, who worship the one God, living and merciful, and call upon Him in prayer, and all of you. I really appreciate your presence: in it I see a tangible sign of the will to grow in mutual esteem and cooperation for the common good of humanity."
"The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – it also attests the valuable work that the Pontifical Council for interreligious dialogue performs."
“If someone is gay and is looking for the Lord, who am I to judge him?”
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Post by Josh on Nov 3, 2013 16:55:43 GMT -8
I was wondering, and you clarified to me today that the quotes you posted are not all ones you think are commendable (in case anyone else in reading along)
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Post by rbbailey on Nov 3, 2013 20:14:04 GMT -8
I do like the direction he is going in the political/moral/anti-gold-encrusted-be-quiet-this-is-a-CHURCH-GODAMNYOU! way that so much of the Catholic (and other) churches have gone.
However, I am afraid some of his theology is simply wrong. Am I wrong, or did he say that everyone goes to heaven if they are good? I'm good. But that's not why I'm going to heaven.
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