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Mark 7
Feb 23, 2010 17:34:23 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 23, 2010 17:34:23 GMT -8
Post your comments, questions, and discussion starters on Mark chapter 7 as replies to this post.
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 10:36:17 GMT -8
Post by carebear on Feb 25, 2010 10:36:17 GMT -8
It seems Jesus was talking about how we cannot be so devoted to our traditions that we miss out when God is asking us to do something else (like care for our needy parents in verse 12). If we are more focused on our own rituals rather than on the presence/voice of God moving, we will not live in the fullness of life God has called us to (and we may hurt people in the process).
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 14:14:29 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 14:14:29 GMT -8
Yep.
On another note:
33After he took him aside, away from the crowd, Jesus put his fingers into the man's ears. Then he spit and touched the man's tongue. 34He looked up to heaven and with a deep sigh said to him, "Ephphatha!" (which means, "Be opened!" ). 35At this, the man's ears were opened, his tongue was loosened and he began to speak plainly.
Why do you all suppose is the reason for Jesus' "deep sigh" here?
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 15:00:53 GMT -8
Post by carebear on Feb 25, 2010 15:00:53 GMT -8
Sometimes when working with "power", deep sighs come out?....like when lifting weights?
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 17:43:25 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 17:43:25 GMT -8
I like that Either that or perhaps he was distressed by the suffering of humanity?
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 19:21:17 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 19:21:17 GMT -8
I'm also thinking about this child who was demon possessed. Gives some pretty credible evidence that not all demon possessed are a result of personal invitation, don't you think?
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 19:45:29 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 25, 2010 19:45:29 GMT -8
In one of my commentaries it was suggested that the reason for Jesus' ministry in Gentile lands here in Mark 7, his marked avoidance of Galilee and the other dominions of Herod Antipas, and his insistence of people not making a fuss about him are all related, all focusing on him not wanting to be arrested too early.
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Mark 7
Feb 25, 2010 20:50:04 GMT -8
Post by carebear on Feb 25, 2010 20:50:04 GMT -8
yeah i think so. I think some can indirectly invite demons through certain activities that they don't think are so bad or harmful. Or even when people agree with the devil that they are dumb or worthless, etc., they can slowly invite the devil's presence over their lives. i don't know if that's considered possessed though....
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Mark 7
Feb 26, 2010 20:28:11 GMT -8
Post by christopher on Feb 26, 2010 20:28:11 GMT -8
I don't think I've ever heard anyone suggest being demonized is only by personal invitation. We don't have much biblical data on the subject so it's really mostly speculation.
As far as demon "possession" is concerned, I think in some cases it may be asked who's possessing who? The original word doesn't necessarily lend itself to the interpretation of possession, but is probably better translated demonized, which, to me, suggests varying degrees.
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Mark 7
Feb 27, 2010 10:08:18 GMT -8
Post by carebear on Feb 27, 2010 10:08:18 GMT -8
Interesant (romanian for interesting).
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Mark 7
Feb 27, 2010 16:21:36 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 27, 2010 16:21:36 GMT -8
Mark 7:9
I just realized that this is a good example of Jesus using sarcasm to make his point.
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Mark 7
Feb 28, 2010 21:41:58 GMT -8
Post by Josh on Feb 28, 2010 21:41:58 GMT -8
Thanks again for the lesson today, Robin. It was chock full of good conversation and interaction and you lead, guided, and moderated well!
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