Your favorite person(s) from Church history?

[Josh]

I'd say that a quality marriage is definitely one indicator that both partners are walking in spiritual maturity.

But when one of the two isn't, it's not much of a gauge I suppose.

[christopher]

Josh wrote:

and we're all sinners in the hands of a loving God

That's sinners in the hands of an angry God.

C'mon isn't Jonathan Edwards on your top ten list.

[robin]

Jun 12, 2009 15:12:28 GMT -8 Josh said:

I'd say that a quality marriage is definitely one indicator that both partners are walking in spiritual maturity.

But when one of the two isn't, it's not much of a gage I suppose.

Well that may be an indicator that both partners are walking in the spirit. However, I have witnessed very good marriages where both husband and wife were not believers in anything spiritual. Laine's Paternal grandparents would be a good example.

As I'm sure you are aware, Christian marriages are just a likely to fail or succeed and those of non-believers. What that means, I don't know. In fact it saddens me greatly.

It's not my intention to be argumentative. I'm simply voicing my observations.

I'm sure there is a more appropriate thread to continue this conversation. So, if I want to add anything, I will find or start a new thread.

Robin

[robin]

Jun 12, 2009 19:27:18 GMT -8 christopher said:

Josh wrote:

and we're all sinners in the hands of a loving God

That's sinners in the hands of an angry God.

C'mon isn't Jonathan Edwards on your top ten list.

That's funny. I thought of the exact same sermon when I read Josh's post.

[Josh]

However, I have witnessed very good marriages where both husband and wife were not believers in anything spiritual. Laine's Paternal grandparents would be a good example.

True enough.

Basically, I think a healthy marriage speaks a lot about the people committed to it (this is not an automatic dispersion on anyone else)

But, on another angle, you could also say that Martin and Katie were pioneers in what we might consider a more modern type of partnership marriage- something pretty rare in the late middle ages, I'd say.

[ryan]

I just saw the film Luther yesterday. I really appreciate quite a few aspects of it, but the marriage gets scant attention, and feels like it was thrown into the film because it was an important moment. Although, a discussion of the film and its accuracy would be more appropriate for the "Soundings" board.