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Post by Josh on Sept 7, 2009 17:43:25 GMT -8
Elsewhere robin wrote:
I have considered the Mormon position and rejected it. Anyone who take textual criticism seriously will conclude that the writings of the book of Mormon fail miserably when compared to the writing of the Old and New Testament.
Archaeological evidence continues to confirm the reliability of the Bible. Conversely the same standards when applied to the B. of M. discredit those writings. When one introduced DNA evidence the Mormon writings are weaken even further, even to the point that the claims are laughable.
yeshuafreak responded:
i agree completely and i did the same thing you did when considering the mormon position. they dont tell you that they ebelieve we can become gods and create otehr realms and that God used to be a man on another planet who created another realm and that Jesus was one of those gods of God's creatoin, and so Jesus created this world as it's god, and that we will soon amount to what Jesus did on our own worlds.
they dont rely on the book of mormon as much as they proclaim either- much less the bible. it is mainly the prophecies of Joseph smith and modern prophets.
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Post by Destroyer on Aug 1, 2012 4:42:22 GMT -8
They put so much emphasis on being Christlike and believe that eventually we can become equal to Christ.
John the Baptist, an incredible preacher and prophet (real prophet), said "He it is, who coming after me is preferred before me, whose shoe's latchet I am not worthy to unloose."
'WHOSE SHOE'S LATCHET I AM NOT WORTHY TO UNLOOSE.'
Does that not put things into perspective? We are blessed to be followers of Christ, disciples of Christ.. It is kind of a ridiculous claim to say that we will become like him or like HEAVENLY FATHER.
This stuff is in the Doctrine and Covenants, I think.
The Book of Mormon. All it really does is rob from the power of Christ's crucifixion. Before Christ gave up the ghost, he said "IT IS FINISHED". FINISHED. All was said and done through Christ, on the CROSS.
What more needed to be done?
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Post by Josh on Aug 1, 2012 7:46:22 GMT -8
Agreed that the Mormon doctrine that we can become gods ourselves is problematic. However, don't you think there is some degree of expectation within Scripture that we will become like Jesus?
Romans 8:29
For those God foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brothers.
Philippians 3:10-11
10 I want to know Christ and the power of his resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in his sufferings, becoming like him in his death, 11 and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead.
Philippians 3:20-21
20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables him to bring everything under his control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like his glorious body.
When we say we want to be like Jesus or will be made like Jesus I think it's important to note that we will be made like Jesus in many ways, but certainly not in every way.
What do you think?
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Post by Destroyer on Aug 1, 2012 8:40:04 GMT -8
We want to share the same characteristics of Jesus. Aspiring to be like Jesus is a wonderful thing, but we could never be his equal. Make sense?
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Post by christopherpdx on Oct 13, 2012 5:37:25 GMT -8
If God, is our Father in Heaven, and we are his spirit children, and after the resurrection our bodies will be like unto him, what then? As the child on this earth, who is the son or daughter of a man and a woman, wont they too be like unto their mother or father? They wont be just like them, or equal to them, but they will be like them in some form of image and so forth. If that is the case, then there must be some validity to the Mormons claim that we will be like our Father in Heaven, or our elder brother Jesus. Of course not just like them, or the sacrafices they made for us, but somewhat. Else why would we refer to them in a family sense of "Father" or "Brother"?
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Post by Destroyer on Oct 31, 2012 3:58:11 GMT -8
We are made in God's image and after the resurrection, we'll certainly not be as limited in who are and what we can do. Though can we become gods? Creators? Could this maybe only happen after we are judged by Joseph Smith?
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